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When a Business Partner Leaves. HC Consulting Group’s CMO Steps Down. We Will Miss You, Hollis!

Marc Horne, Co-founder and CEO of HC Consulting Group.

Hollis Carter, my good friend of 10 years, the CMO and main face of HC Consulting Group, is stepping down from his position at HC. Our friendship remains strong which is probably more than most people in a similar situation can say when closing out a business partnership. The situation is tricky, of course, and I’m sure it will ring home with some folks out there, so I’ve decided to share the story.

It all started about 5 years ago when I decided with my brother, Tyler, and my college roommate, Hollis, to start a software company.  We had collectively saved about $25k and decided to invest that into our new business to create our first platform; a gradebook management system coupled with a social network, which we call SchoolBridge.com.  We hired a development team in January 2008 and set out building our first piece of software.  During this time I lived and breathed this new venture; I literally was roommates with Hollis and discussed the business over phone calls to New York City with Tyler daily.

Hollis and I graduated college and moved into an apartment in the Virginia Highlands neighborhood of Atlanta.  That summer, Tyler came down from NYC and over the next few months stayed on the couch as we prepped to launch our new business.

A byproduct from creating SchoolBridge was we had the initial designs of a pure social networking platform.  Now, we decided early on that we wanted to offer SchoolBridge as a free service to any school nationwide in need of such a service.  Over the course of a few month we culled all the social network aspects out of SchoolBridge onto a development server, added and built some additional features and ended up creating Social Network Empire (SNE), which we operate as SaaS and sell licenses for its use and which we still run and operate to this day.

Starting a business comes with risks and as such is a little scary.  I didn’t have an income stream going in; the money I had saved up was just about all invested into our software development and it really was a ‘do or die’ type of situation.

Needless to say, after a lot of hard work and sleepless nights we hit the ground running and HC Consulting Group brought in our first dollar on October 21, 2008.  That first month in business we brought in about 99,000 additional dollars and were immediately in the black.  Whew!

Over the past 4 years since we first launched our business we have created a suite of software services to service small businesses, entrepreneurs, and online marketers.

Our business has taken us around the world to Spain, Mexico, India, France, Canada, amongst other places.  Running with the bulls and doing business from an RV in Spain and France was one my highlights for sure.  Our Workations to Mexico where we brought our entire company was not too shabby of times either!

It has been an incredible ride, but I would be lying if I told you that it has been a smooth sailing course.  Obstacles and roadblocks come up all of the time when running a business and what separates those that find success from those that don’t is the motivation to not give up, accept failure sometimes, and finding a way around the obstacles that get in our way….

Obstacles we had in launching a business.

Sure, I graduated with a degree is business management from Kennesaw State University and was prepared as I could ever be.  In theory I knew how to run a business, but the reality is that no amount of preparation or studying from a book can prepare you for running a business as well as just diving in headfirst and making moves.

Just so you know, if you decide to start a business with partners – be sure to have an operating agreement and go over the “what ifs” right from the start.

Plan for eventualities.  We had never launched a business before and the process of learning the ropes while running the day to day operations and in between taking account of necessary systems and processes that were before unknown to us even with a business background, left us in a constant state of what some people might call paranoia, but at this point it’s what I call an attitude of preparedness.  They say hindsight is 20/20; well that couldn’t be a truer statement.

Our network of business associates and friends we have built up over time, coupled with the vast knowledge of free information that the internet and books have in them enabled us to tackle each and every obstacle that we have faced.

This article is not a history lesson on our business, but rather an explanation, or an inside look on starting a business with partners and the chain of events that led our CMO to step down. Starting a business with a partner offers many huge benefits, but time after time we see that partnerships can quickly go bad if you don’t properly plan in advance.

Partnering With Friends

Launching our business with 3 partners was a very good idea for us and with the proper planning and consideration a partnership can be an unequivocal success.  My strengths and weaknesses, and those of my 2 partners was in perfect alignment.  Doing a SWOT analysis and making sure that your partners cover the areas where you lack is a vital component to having a successful partnership.

I knew for most of my life that I never wanted to have a real “boss” so to speak and have been entrepreneurial, business oriented, and creative since I was a young kid.  Starting a business was the natural thing to for me to do and having a couple partners enabled me to share the cost of start-up, share responsibilities and workloads, share the inherent business risks and expenses, as well as put myself in a better position by utilizing complementary skills and additional contacts from each of my partners; not to mention the accountability.  Having business partners and being held accountable is something that you really can’t pay for.

The mutual support and motivation in our launch/start-up phase (and even to this day) has been incredible and enabled us to achieve greater financial results together than probably would have been possible apart from them on my own.

“Businesses with multiple owners are more likely to survive longer than sole proprietorships,” says Economist Brian Headd of the U.S. Small Business Administration.

I stand behind and vouch for Brian’s statement 110%.

As with other business considerations though, partnerships can be a good or bad thing depending on the parties and circumstances involved.

Some possible cons of going into business with partners (which I have only recently learned about – like I said earlier – how the heck do you plan for things that you don’t even know about) include:

Partners are jointly and individually liable for the business activities of the other partners. If your partner skips town on you, you’ll be liable for everything, not just half.  You have to share profits and you do not have total control over the business. Decisions are shared, and differences of opinion can lead to disagreements, a “falling out,” or even one partner buying out the other.

Before starting a business and entering into a partnership, it is a wise decision to first determine whether or not you yourself are cut out to be the “partner type of person;” and if so, to thoroughly investigate prospective business partners as well.

There’s also a chance that one business partner may not work as hard as the other, but will want the same rewards as the more ‘valuable’ partner. If you have a low tolerance level for this type of thing, a partnership may not be for you.

As with different roles of partnerships, different partners undoubtedly see what they do as the more valuable role.

As funny as it sounds, a business partnership is much like a marriage, and just as you would (or should at least) take great care, time and consideration in the selection of a husband / wife, the same applies in the selection of a business partner.

During your “dating” period, here are some questions to ask yourself to find out if you’re compatible:

Do we have the same ethics, motivation, values and similar work styles / habits?  It goes without saying that getting into a business with an unmotivated and shady character will most likely end up going sour quickly.

Do we have the same long term goals; 5 years, 10 years, 20 years?  Does one of your partners never want to get married?  Is your goal to work less, travel more?  These are the types of questions that are wise to go over prior to forming your partnership.

Do you have a similar vision, ideas and objectives about how to run the business and where you want it to head?  If you do not have a similar vision – you shouldn’t really be discussing partnering with that person in the first place.

Do your strengths and weaknesses align well with each other?  This is absolutely critical and truly one of the factors that has enabled HC Consulting Group to accomplish what we have.  You should not have a business partner who has the same skill set as you.  You want to look for varying skill sets such as technical ability, networking ability, speaking, selling, writing, and creative thinking to name a few.

Are you able to communicate well with one another in a pleasant, respectful and comfortable manner?  Without a doubt, you will get into arguments and yelling battles ever so often and you all need to be sure to keep a level of professionalism.

In your gut, do you trust this individual?  If you don’t trust the individual, you shouldn’t even be debating on going into business with them.

You will also need to do some research about your prospective partner. Check out the individual’s background thoroughly by, for example, talking to former employers or business partners.

As tempting as it is to go into business with a friend or relative, be aware that there’s a huge difference between getting along with someone on a social basis, and working together in a business.  Many friendships have been lost forever to a business partnership gone bad.

I went into business with a relative (my brother), and a best friend!

How it came about.

It came about as our goals and visions began to slightly differ.  Tyler and I were recently married, which brings with it a whole new set of priorities, goals, and designs on even running our business.  Hollis is still a bachelor and as such is on a different page entirely.  We started to get into various smaller quarrels every now and then and finally had the big important phone discussion.

“Guys, I believe that we are in different places, have different goals, and I feel as if I am bottlenecking our company.  Our friendships are the most important thing to me so I would like to take steps to step down from our business.”

The conversation lasted around 45 minutes but that was the general gist of it, which by the way is probably the most effective way to tell your partners that you want to step down if you find yourself in a similar situation.

When A Partner Leaves:

Since a partnership is always much easier to get into than to get out of, it is very important to have complete clarity at the outset.  Avoid any potential problems by making sure duties and responsibilities of each partner are detailed in a legal operating agreement from the get-go is important.

Again, we had never created a business before and literally just dove right in head first with verbal agreements.  Not having an operating agreement will make the situation a bit tougher for you.

This agreement should include and set forth: division of labor including who’ll be responsible for making purchase decisions; how much capital each will contribute; who owns what; how decisions will be made, profits will be shared, disputes will be resolved; a buy-sell agreement; and who will be entitled to what if the partnership doesn’t work out, non competition clauses (just to name a few).

Involve a lawyer and an accountant from the outset to help form your partnership and to draw up legal agreements. And don’t forget, take your time. Just like a good marriage, you’ll want this business partnership to last.

Hollis is moving on to other ventures and the reality of it is that this move should help him do more of what he wants to do and enable us to take control of our company more and do far greater things.  Sometimes, in fact more often than not, a change must occur in order for us to advance and I firmly believe that this move will help HC Consulting Group as well as Hollis be able to achieve far greater things.

It has been and continues to be our goal to create and manage software platforms and services that help business owners, entrepreneurs, and everyday folks utilize the internet for their advantage.  This mission has steered us to create incredible services such as DailyDealBuilder.com which has been transforming the daily deal industry and paving the way for thousands of businesses and entrepreneurs to launch a daily deal business.

Our plans to grow our business and continue helping more folks out has not faltered one bit and I believe that now more than ever we will continue growing by leaps and bounds.

We will all miss you Hollis and look forward to see the great things that you accomplish as well as continuing to grow the friendship that we have started.

If you know someone who may benefit from reading this report, I encourage you to share it via the links below.

Marc Horne

55 comments

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Wow. Nice read! Best of luck to both of you!

Thanks Mike. Long time no talk bro! Hope all has been going well for ya.

Thanks buddy.  Been a long while since we hung out.  I miss your Canadian face. – marc

Marc, what an excellent article!  It was not only extremely informative for anyone thinking about going into a partnership but also an example of your business brilliance – I think it is fabulous you chose to take the high road by educating and being authentic and transparent about the change in your company rather than letting people wonder or draw their own conclusion about the change that which will allow all of you to stay focused on your new adventures and possibilities without skipping a beat.  You are all brilliant and I wish you all  much success and happiness as you go your separate ways in business.  I think friendship should be more important than business and the bottom line and commend Hollis for making such a difficult yet wise decision.  Change is never easy, but I know you will all thrive and do even more amazing things.

Erica,

Thank you for your words of support / encouragement.  You are most definitely correct as well.  I’ve seen it be a huge secretive thing in the past and always found that to be odd.  Chat soon.  MH

Thanks for the post and your email  Erica… was great to get to work with you in the past all the best! 

Wau… Nice to read this article…!
I Pride to work for you..as a “core developer of Schoolbridge and SNE” projects.

 

Thanks for great information.  I have had a couple of partnerships that split apart and I totally agree, they are good and challenging, but that an agreement upfront is ESSENTIAL.  Friendships and working relationships are great until money becomes involved, from my experience and observation.  It is important for each person in a partnership to be treated fairly upon exit.  Thanks for sharing your experience.  

Thank you Donna.  When your partnerships split apart – was it “friendly”?

What a great Article,Very Moving and Informative ,thanks for the share . I`m a sole ower at the moment ,but if ever in the future I decide to change things .I will refer Back to this article …Thank you Guys ,Best of Luck in the future ventures to all

What an immensly satifying and rewarding article this is, and although it is deeply personal, and there is obviously some pain here, there are lessons to be learned for anyone contemplating going into business with a partner.

You should seriously think about building this out into a book because there is great advice and you speak from the heart.

Thanks for sharing

Roger

Roger,

I appreciate it.  I have been working on a book for a bout 6 months now.  I plan to have it completed by my birthday (9-26).  Thanks!
Marc

Very well written, inspirational and educational.  Great advice.

Marc, when your book is complete you should be sure to send us all an email as you did for this post. I know myself, and I’m sure many of us who read this would be very interested in reading your book as well. Best of luck moving forward, great post.

Without a doubt I will.  Just need to lock myself in a cabin for a week or two to finally get the thing complete 🙂 – MH

Excellent Article, the same thing happen to me going into a real estate investor business with a friend.

Ricardo,

There has been quite a few folks who have reached out to letting me know they’ve been in a similar situation.  Good to know I’m in good company.  Cheers, Marc Horne

Marc, your article could not have been more timely for me.  I’ve been considering bringing in a business partner and now I have your list of questions to consider as a template so I can be as thoroughly prepared as possible for such an undertaking.  I can’t say I’m happy to see Hollis go – he’s amazing, but I also agree that friendships are more important than businesses, and that each individual must find their most rewarding path – in career and in life.  Thanks for opening up and sharing your personal story.  It is very, very helpful.

Thanks Paula.  Speak with you very shortly 🙂

This had to be hard to write and must have taken hours to write it “just so” being respectful to all parties involved.  I honor and respect you for putting this out for all to see, read, process and utilize (if needed).  
Excellent advice.  I wish you all well and continued success in your personal and business lives.

The post really hits home on many levels.  I’ve been through the partnership ordeals a couple of times in my online career and things like priorities, separation of work and responsiblity are tough things to manage as a team. 

I’ve been a promoter of your stuff for many years and I must say that as professional business men, you guys were always on the top of my list and you should be proud of what you did and how you managed it.  (I was always very envious on the marketing skills of this team).

I only personally know Hollis out of the 3 of you, but I have no worries that he will continue to be successful and you and Tyler will continue to run this solid business. 

Nobody said that business and the internet is a stable place to be (especially these days!).  Looking forward for more stuff from both groups in the future.

cheers….matt bredel

Matt,
Thanks for your response bro.  Looking forward to continued success together. MH

I have always loved working with HC Consulting and have valued your company’s ethics and integrity. I wish you all well. Your products, education and services have changed my life. I will continue looking forward to your next product or seminar. Bless all of you as you are a GREAT bunch of guys. Good luck Hollis, I am certain you will kick butt at whatever you do. Vickie

Vickie,
Great to hear from you.  It has been quite a while since we’ve spoken and I hope you are absolutely rocking!  Keep me in the loop with what you have been up to, what you have going on.  Cheers! MH

Hmm, may be you should have found a wife for Hollis… Just kidding.. It’s sad
But lesson to be learn’t that good friendship come first.. Step down before
You make it uglier.. To your success Marc , Hollis and Tyler..

hahaha.  “maybe you should have found a wife for Hollis” – cracking up on that comment.

hahaha..very well that might have changed things up…lol thanks for the comment 

Phenomenal article and yes, it hits home for sure! I am glad to hear the friendships have remained through such a sticky situation!
gina~
proud client of http://www.DailyDealBuilder.comhttp://www.YoginiDeals.com

Marc,
Thanks for sharing your experience in a constructive way. Many folks will benefit from your thoughts before entering a partnership. Your approach also shows that lasting friendship is possible after ending a partnership.
While I do believe that one should research potential partners, I also know that people & their priorities do change over time. Just like marriage, never take your partners for granted. Keep working on providing the desired mutual benefits. Surely there is a need for “business partnership seminars”.
Marc, thanks again and wishing you & your partners (ex & present) all the best in your future endeavors.
Franz
P.S.: Want to capitalize on my idea? Just contact me to find out more about it & where to send the royalties.

Franz,

Thank for your response and well wishes.  Regarding your PS, I am pretty busy with a boat load of our own ideas, but always welcome exploratory discussion 🙂  Cheers, Marc Horne

 Marc,
My P.S. was more that of a LOL revelation. Main thing is that everyone involved will focus on the best positive ways of moving forward. It would be great to see some follow up over the next few months on how you are dealing with the challenges arising from this situation. Especially the progressive revelations as you go through this. Maybe in form of a blog turned into a book later on.
Take care, Franz

I am so impressed with the company that you have built. I am even more impressed by your ability to have maintained good relationships throughout to this end.  Thank you for sharing this with us, instead of going the “secretive” route. I am sure many will benefit from your story. Such a well written and moving article…I await your book.
 best wishes to you all.

Justine,
I appreciate your response / feedback.  Let us know if there is anything we can help you out with and best wishes to you as well. – MH

Thanks for the feedback… one thing we are learning in the whole process open honest communication is key. 

I’m on the daily deal roster on a small user scale and hope to grow with you brothers, even though i’m in California, i feel like i’m a Georgian reading your heartfelt letter on a personal basis, but yet you gentlemen display an unselfish  and fair professionalism in partner hood and bond contracted on faith and trust, but most of love for one another ,even though riding into different endeavors, you still show it with following through and sharing such insight of your companies growth and that is rare, and hope that the foundation is still here in the days to come and that, I to can add help and become part of this family business.
                                            
                                                                                                  Best wishes to you all, and Thanks!
                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                 Mauricio j. Cosio

                                                                                                          http://www.sqwallywop.com

Mauricio,
Truly thankful for your kind words!  Let us know what we can do to help you grow.   Keep rocking. – MH

Great article Marc, it is certainly heartfelt and written with such caring and respect.  This is awesome advice for anyone involved in a business and thinking of bringing in a partner.  There is a lot to consider, and it stinks to have to do it after the fact, as I had to.  Yuck, it was a messy end unfortunately, but necessary.
Friendships are definitely more important than business.  Thanks for the advice and information!
Mary-Ellen

Mary-Ellen,
You are quite welcome and I appreciate your response. Cheers! MH

The report is very timely. Here in Zanzibar Partnerships hardly last the period agreed upon mostly because no written agreements were made, consequently costing partnerships heavy costs and what would have  been lasting  relations become minimised and broken costing involvers a lot of money and taxation dept loss of revenues. I think it about time seriousness to Partnership studies are well entrenched in Business Administration and management courses-short or long- whichever will built sustainable business relationships to become viable and meaningful

Marc,

Thanks for sharing this story about your business partnership and the pains that you have taken into coming up with the eventual decision to part ways with Hollis. I’m sure things will take off even better in your separate ventures from now on.

Cheers,
Lester

Cheers to you as well Lester and let us know if we can help you out in any way.  I really do believe that sometimes, more often than not, a change must occur in order for us to advance. – MH

The only constant in this world is Change, so I totally agree that you guys have decided to change what you are doing to strive for another level in your respective businesses. Thanks for your offer of help, and do feel free to let me know how I can help you in your business as well, in my capacity as a Joint Venture Broker/Manager. 🙂

You’re welcome Hollis, look forward to seeing more quality stuff from you.

I have enjoyed the videos and professional products that have evolved from your company.
It is sad  you are both going your sepearate ways , but I wish you both the best for the future and look forward to see you both proper further.

Regards NeilB

Hey dudes!  Sorry to hear this.  I know that you will both do great.  Of course, since I have my cards in the mix with SNE, VSE and Bloopio I am rooting for the company to stay strong and continue to work hard for all those that have invested their time and money with your company.

And I wish Hollis all the best in his next steps and journey online.  I would hope that you can help bring to the market a new set of tools and excitement that you may not have had the chance to do earlier.

All Good Things!
Ryan K

Great advice in this article. Thanks

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